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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_April_30
April 30
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Wikipedians with an account on Archive of Our Own
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Rename to match the more common naming convention in Category:Wikipedians by website. Alternately delete since it's not clear how this category aids collaboration. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep (as creator) but Rename to Category:Wikipedians who use Archive of Our Own so that it is broader and more inclusive of editors who use the website to interact in ways that do not necessarily involve contributing stories or creating an account. I don't see any issues with the category existing, personally. Fan fiction and fandom are broad topics with much legitimate coverage on the encyclopedia, and given AO3's position of significance as a major platform for fandom communities of all stripes, I think it is fair to have a category available for users to indicate their interest in the website and topics related to it. silviaASH (inquire within) 14:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Closed churches in New York City
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. SMasonGarrison 13:13, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. I can't tell the difference and there is no explanation on the page. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:01, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Jat clans of Sindh
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Jat clans of Sindh to Category:Jat clans
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 13:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just delete, the article is already in Category:Jat clans of Punjab. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:03, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Muslim communities of Himachal Pradesh
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 12:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Greco-Roman military historiography
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Greco-Roman military books (2 C) to Category:Ancient military books
- Propose merging Category:Classical military writers (2 C) to Category:Ancient military writers
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only the ancient Greek and ancient Roman subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:52, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Songs with lyrics by Rosa Lobato de Faria
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: All known entries are redirects, making this category currently redundant. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:31, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Grk1011 (talk) 12:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Canadian osteopathic physicians
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Canadian osteopathic physicians to Category:Osteopathic physicians
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with Category:Canadian physicians LibStar (talk) 06:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Single merge to Category:Osteopathic physicians because the article is already in Category:Canadian general practitioners. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:33, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Leprechauns
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete in the spirit of WP:C2F. The subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Mythological kings of Sweden
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Mythological kings of Sweden to Category:Semi-legendary kings of Sweden
- Nominator's rationale: merge, although some article texts suggest these kings are rooted in Norse mythology there is no evidence of that. The kings in the two categories have been mentioned by medieval sources suggesting it was real history, and we currently have no means to verify that information. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:State Wakf Board of India
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:State Wakf Board of India to Category:Waqf boards
- Nominator's rationale: rename, slightly expand the scope of the category so that the Central Waqf Council can also be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fine with me, we should merge the child cats to this new cat as well. SMasonGarrison 12:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Christianization in India
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Christianization in India to Category:Christianization and Category:Christianity in India
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category that doesn't seem very helpful for navigation. Upmerge for now SMasonGarrison 03:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, but take as second merge target more specifically Category:History of Christianity in India. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! SMasonGarrison 12:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Sunni Waqf Board of India
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Sunni Waqf Board of India to Category:State Wakf Board of India
- Propose merging Category:Shia Waqf Board of India to Category:State Wakf Board of India
- Nominator's rationale: There's no need to isolate this page from the parent category. SMasonGarrison 03:07, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom but the sibling category should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:34, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- added 2nd cat per Marco. SMasonGarrison 12:03, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:List of Nadar people
[edit]- Propose merging Category:List of Nadar people to Category:Nadar (caste)
- Nominator's rationale: Not filled with lists, just individual pages. I'm not sure if merge or delete is better. SMasonGarrison 03:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, as far as I know we do not categorize biography articles by caste. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Muslim communities of Jammu and Kashmir
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Muslim communities of Jammu and Kashmir to Category:Muslim communities of India
- Propose merging Category:Muslim communities of Uttarakhand to Category:Muslim communities of India
- Propose merging Category:Muslim communities of Ladakh to Category:Muslim communities of India
- Nominator's rationale: underpoplated category. upmerge for now SMasonGarrison 03:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:38, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:List of Gujjar Muslim People
[edit]- Propose merging Category:List of Gujjar Muslim People to Category:Muslim Gujjars
- Nominator's rationale: This is not a list, it's just individual people. SMasonGarrison 02:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:39, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Mosques in Southeast Asia
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Mosques in Southeast Asia to Category:Mosques in Asia
- Propose merging Category:Mosques in East Asia to Category:Mosques in Asia
- Propose merging Category:Mosques in South Asia to Category:Mosques in Asia
- Nominator's rationale: I don't think we really need to bundle these categories together. There's no need to isolate countries like this. All three of these categories were made by the same user. If not merged, then all the categories need to have sort keys and additional parents added. SMasonGarrison 02:49, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, trivial intersection between regions and religion, and the country subcategories are already in the merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Khasi muslim people
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Khasi muslim people to Category:Khasi people
- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated category, that might be a non-defining intersection of ethnicity and religion. SMasonGarrison 02:46, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Cities in fiction
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Barcelona in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Barcelona
- Propose merging Category:Belgrade in fiction (1 C) to Category:Belgrade in popular culture
- Propose merging Category:Lagos in fiction (1 C) to Category:Lagos in the arts and media
- Propose merging Category:Macau in fiction (1 C) to Category:Works about Macau
- Propose merging Category:Prague in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Prague
- Propose merging Category:Saint Petersburg in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Saint Petersburg
- Propose merging Category:Salzburg in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Salzburg
- Propose merging Category:Sarajevo in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Sarajevo
- Propose merging Category:Vienna in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Vienna
- Propose merging Category:Volgograd Oblast in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of Volgograd Oblast
- Propose merging Category:Avignon in fiction (1 C) to Category:Avignon
- Propose merging Category:Cannes in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Cannes
- Propose merging Category:Dunkirk in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of Dunkirk
- Propose merging Category:La Rochelle in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of La Rochelle
- Propose merging Category:Lille in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of Lille
- Propose merging Category:Lyon in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Lyon
- Propose merging Category:Marseille in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of Marseille
- Propose merging Category:Nantes in fiction (1 C) to Category:Nantes
- Propose merging Category:Nice in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of Nice
- Propose merging Category:Saint-Tropez in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture of Saint-Tropez
- Propose merging Category:Naples in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Naples and Category:Campania in fiction
- Propose merging Category:Palermo in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Palermo
- Propose merging Category:Pisa in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Pisa
- Propose merging Category:Verona in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Verona
- Propose merging Category:Gdańsk in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Gdańsk
- Propose merging Category:Kraków in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Kraków
- Propose merging Category:Łódź in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Łódź
- Propose merging Category:Lublin in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Lublin
- Propose merging Category:Wrocław in fiction (1 C) to Category:Culture in Wrocław
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Lean oppose. Do all of these categories reflect "culture in" those places? If I set a novel in Berlin, or Washington, D.C., but I don't live there, I'm not sure it would be "culture in" either of those places. The existing titles look better to me, since they don't say anything about where the fiction was written or whether it constitutes "culture". P Aculeius (talk) 12:59, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly I was a bit hesitant about that too. Culture categories happen to be the parent categories of them, but I am not sure if they are the best parent categories. Alternatively merge them further up to e.g. Category:Barcelona. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's suggestion for a further upmerge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 00:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:State funerals in Vatican City
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: There is no difference with Category:Funerals in Vatican City. Normal funerals would take place in Italy, and none of the pope-related articles are treated as state funerals. (CC) Tbhotch™ 05:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, we do not need two categories for this. Possibly rename Category:Funerals in Vatican City to Category:Funerals of popes. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- We actually do have Category:Deaths and funerals of popes. Keivan.fTalk 14:10, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It's pretty much a duplicate of Category:Funerals in Vatican City. Keivan.fTalk 14:08, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep If there is only one category, I'd prefer Category:State funerals in Vatican City over Category:Funerals in Vatican City. If there is only one, I'd prefer the State funerals category since all of the funerals listed in the latter category are for popes who are the heads of state in Vatican City. It's more in keeping to have a head of state category for this country than just a regular funerals category. Category:Deaths and funerals of popes is a brand new category that was only created several days ago, after this CFD discussion was already started and I think it can be eliminated or turned into a redirect. Liz Read! Talk! 21:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Presumably all clergy in Vatican City get a state funeral (i.e. funded by the Vatican state), but are any of these funerals called state funerals? I don't think so. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's and Liz's comments?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:52, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Disney Channels Worldwide original programming
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Disney Channels Worldwide was renamed anyway so you could technically rename it to CategoryDisney Branded Television original programming, but this seems to be a suiting name. RanDom 404 (talk) 16:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hispanophobia and subcats
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Hispanophobia to Category:Anti-Hispanic and Latin American racism
- Propose renaming Category:Hispanophobia in the United States to Category:Anti-Hispanic and Latino racism in the United States
- Propose renaming Category:Hispanophobia in California to Category:Anti-Hispanic and Latino racism in California
- Propose renaming Category:Hispanophobia in Texas to Category:Anti-Hispanic and Latino racism in Texas
- Nominator's rationale The term "Hispanophobia" is vague and often refers to anti-Spanish sentiment specifically or perhaps to racism against all Hispanics/Spanish-speakers, but does not include all Latinos such as Brazilians or non-Spanish speaking Indigenous peoples of Latin America. It is both broader and more specific to say "anti-Hispanic and Latino American/Latino". A lot of the racism in the US is against Latinos anyway and not necessarily against Spaniards. For the main category I suggested "Hispanic and Latin American" rather than "Hispanic and Latino", because Latino is more of a US-centric word and isn't used as heavily in other places like Canada. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 02:47, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose The main articles are called "Anti-____ sentiment", making the category name not match the articles. I can support moving to Category:Anti-Hispanic sentiment and similar categories. I am not sure "Latino" is necessary since it refers to a subset of Hispanics, but if it is, I am fine with adding it back in. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:19, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm Latino is absolutely not a subset of Hispanic. "Hispanic" refers to Spanish-speaking people in both Spain and Latin America/diaspora, while Latino refers to all Latin American origin people in the US including Portuguese-speaking Brazilians, Indigenous peoples who don't speak Spanish or Portuguese, etc. Furthermore, what main article? There are no articles about racism against either Latin Americans/diaspora in general or against Latinos in the US in particular. Those articles haven't been created. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:35, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- In any case, I support a move to Category:Anti-Hispanic and Latino sentiment to correspond to Category:Hispanic and Latino. I don't support the proposed, as "racism" is not used anywhere in the titles of the related articles. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm Latino is absolutely not a subset of Hispanic. "Hispanic" refers to Spanish-speaking people in both Spain and Latin America/diaspora, while Latino refers to all Latin American origin people in the US including Portuguese-speaking Brazilians, Indigenous peoples who don't speak Spanish or Portuguese, etc. Furthermore, what main article? There are no articles about racism against either Latin Americans/diaspora in general or against Latinos in the US in particular. Those articles haven't been created. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:35, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support Per nominator. Erick (talk) 19:03, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Zxcvbnm's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:45, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support "sentiment" for consistency with other similar categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:45, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Films about Brazilian military dictatorship
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: "Films about Brazilian military dictatorship" is not grammatically correct, and the similar category for Chile has "the" in the title.--JPHC2003 (talk) 01:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support The suggestion makes the sentence work properly in English. Dimadick (talk) 06:55, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Category was not tagged; I will do so. If there are no further comments we will be all set for renaming.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:43, 30 April 2025 (UTC)